Multi region support for apps | Feature Requests

Multi region support for apps

under review

Jaap Frolich

It would be great to have a way to host apps that are deployed in multiple regions, so the app is fast anywhere in the world.

I guess this is quite a challenge, because you might also need a multi-region distributed database. But it would be great to have an easy way of building such an app without the dev-ops overhead.

October 15, 2019

Maksim Fedotov

Curious if this is still very long term or more mid-term now? Moving to Japan, I realised just how much of a bottleneck having my web services sitting in EU now

Anurag Goel

Maksim Fedotov would a Tokyo region solve this issue for you? Or do you need the same service to be deployed in multiple regions?

Maksim Fedotov

Anurag Goel Not really, it's just an example. I've got users all across the world, so while front-end is distributed and fast, fetching data from the API outside Europe (where my database and server is), is slow, such as Japan or US. I'd love the same capabilities as Fly.io basically

freeC System

we need it

nico

🙏

Lloyd Chang

Agreed that it is quite a challenge.

Lloyd Chang

In my experiences with building multiple region support for applications elsewhere (which were outside of Render): It is an expensive endeavor, depending on the percentage % of uptime availability and site reliability needed.

Lloyd Chang

For what it's worth — For illustrative purposes, I’m just posting reference links below with architectural diagrams, blogs, workshops, about related topics:
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Reliability Pillar - AWS Well-Architected Framework
• https://docs.aws.amazon.com/wellarchitected/latest/reliability-pillar/welcome.html
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Stateless Applications, such as Multi-Region Active / Active and Active / Passive Amazon Elastic Kubernetes Service (EKS):
• https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/architecture/disaster-recovery-dr-architecture-on-aws-part-iii-pilot-light-and-warm-standby/
• https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/architecture/disaster-recovery-dr-architecture-on-aws-part-iv-multi-site-active-active/ 
• https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/containers/operating-a-multi-regional-stateless-application-using-amazon-eks/
• https://disaster-recovery.workshop.aws/en/labs/advanced/kubernetes-dr-kubefed.html
• https://weaveworks-gitops.awsworkshop.io/25_workshop_2_ha-dr.html  
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Stateful Applications — such as PostgreSQL Database — in Global Active / Passive Amazon Aurora Relational Database Service: 
• https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/database/cross-region-disaster-recovery-using-amazon-aurora-global-database-for-amazon-aurora-postgresql/
• https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/database/part-1-scale-applications-using-multi-region-amazon-eks-and-amazon-aurora-global-database/
• https://disaster-recovery.workshop.aws/en/labs/advanced/aurora-global-database.html
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Notes for future reference:
• In above links, the definition of Multi-Region is different than Global
• Global is at a higher-level abstraction layer that spans across multiple regions concurrently
• Whereas Multi-Region refers to separate regions that aren't interconnected, and can operate in split-brain mode
• Split-brain is defined at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split-brain_(computing)

Erick Tamayo

This is why I'm looking at Fly.io as an alternative

Alex

Any update on this?

Dee Evans

PLEASE - This single feature would make my enterprise switch over from Heroku.

Anurag Goel

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under review

Anurag Goel

Great suggestion, and it's certainly on our list for the long term.

render_k9tmadbsncix4

Anurag Goel: Maybe https://www.yugabyte.com/ , which is supposed to be PostgreSQL compatible, is worth a look? I hope to try it out soon.

Anurag Goel

render_k9tmadbsncix4: Thanks. We'll check it out.